![]() obstructions with the rock could make it so that it does not engage. ![]() Two climbers simul-climbing on the same atc-guide and if one falls and hangs on the rope the other might not be in locking position so you would absolutely need to have your hand on it. There are situations that it might not catch. Here's the thing, for 99% of the cases it's auto locking. TL:DR - In guide mode, is the BD ATC-Guide a true auto-locking device with which you can take your hand off of the brake?! No doubt I'll need to get out there and experiment. In the end, I think that I will do everything I can to manage the belay station so I don't need to take my hand off of the break, but recognize that there may be more important considerations, given that the ATC does indeed look when set properly. First time post, sorry if I couldn't find this already posted/answered.ĮDIT: Thanks everyone for your responses it was extremely helpful. So what do people do, in the real world? Is the ATC indeed an auto-locking device where you can take your hand off of the break (to up-rope, for example)? For single pitch routes, especially, should I just get a GriGri? Or did I just set it up poorly so up-roping was unnecessarily difficult? Any input would be appreciated. This has got me thinking more about getting a Gri-Gri, but you're not supposed to take your hand off the brake on that either. Well, after doing some top-belaying of my own with the ATC, I found it pretty difficult to "up-rope" without taking my hand off the brake (I suspect I set it up poorly). WHAT?! It turned my world upside down (Black Diamond's official instructions indicate you can NEVER take your hand off the break). seminar where the main instructor indicated that he is comfortable using the ATC in guide-mode without always having a hand on the brake-side of the rope because when used that way, it is an "auto-locking device." When he guides, he says he'll even take pictures of his clients. Regardless of any advice you may receive while using this forum, it is your personal responsibility to make sure that you are fully trained to handle the great deal of risk involved in climbing and related activities. Please understand that rock climbing is an extremely dangerous activity. ![]() Poor quality/low quality submissions may be removed at moderator's discretion. Do not attempt to ask questions by posting an image and asking in the title. Please remember to treat others as you would like to be treated, and remember you are talking to another person.Īsk questions in the stickied threads. ![]()
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